Malt Shovel Deep Roast Ale

Hully · Post by **Hully** » Thursday Sep 01, 2005 8:18 pm

Picked up 2 cans on special and would appreciate suggestions on how best to use them.

Also was given a Coopers white label Australian Lager, nearly 3 years out of date.

Toss or brew

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thursday Sep 01, 2005 8:29 pm

Put the lager thats out of date in a air tight sterilized container , refrigerate and use for starters with yeasts.

Shaun · Post by **Shaun** » Thursday Sep 01, 2005 9:13 pm

Guest you are full of advice tonight how about registering!

Hully brew the out of date coopers but replace the yeast, the wort will be a little darker than normal but will be fine.

db · Post by db » Thursday Sep 01, 2005 9:21 pm

Hully wrote:Picked up 2 cans on special and would appreciate suggestions on how best to use them.

Also was given a Coopers white label Australian Lager, nearly 3 years out of date. Toss or brew

hully, i did a deep roast a few months back & added about 150g of chocolate grain (steeped in warm water for an hr or so).. & made up as per instructions (to 11.5l i think?) ended up a little too chocolatey but was tasty. it was a prety big beer.. it's a good kit imo
i'd probly suggest around 50-75g of choc grain (per can) & maybe some finishing hops - fuggles or williamette perhaps..

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thursday Sep 01, 2005 9:37 pm

Yeh Shaun , quiet night , but don't forget the advice is free.
Prefer to remain as a guest at this stage as its only a hit and run.
All I can say is take it or leave it.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thursday Sep 01, 2005 9:43 pm

Oh by the way Shaun , would you really use a kit that's 3 years out of date. Suppose we are all different in this hobby and that's what makes it interesting.

gregb · Post by **gregb** » Friday Sep 02, 2005 6:34 am

If the can looks in good condition (not swollen etc) I would use the old kit. The yeast is probably cactus, but can be easily replaced. All that will happen is the malt may start to darken, this is merley an asthetic issue.

Cheers,

Greg.

Dogger Dan · Post by **Dogger Dan** » Friday Sep 02, 2005 7:28 am

Hully,

If the can isn't dented, brew it up. get yourself a new yeast. The only likely affect you will get is a darker brew. If its pooched you will only contaminate one batch. If use it for starters you will pooch plenty. Just me though

Dogger

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Friday Sep 02, 2005 9:29 am

Not saying its pooched, Read up fellars, when it comes to malt, ALWAYS, fresh is best. So why would you waste your time brewing a batch if its not going to turn out as good as one using a fresh kit. False economy.

Tony · Post by **Tony** » Friday Sep 02, 2005 2:11 pm

Guest,

I'm with Shaun on this one - you've taken the time to give your opinions ( and come back with follow-up) - how about you take the time to register?

Tony

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Friday Sep 02, 2005 3:40 pm

Anonymous wrote:Not saying its pooched, Read up fellars, when it comes to malt, ALWAYS, fresh is best. So why would you waste your time brewing a batch if its not going to turn out as good as one using a fresh kit. False economy.

false economy? i think you mean flawed logic? if fresh is best (& as dogger mentions) why would you risk several brews and use it for starters. not to mention keeping it in the fridge! fair enough comment about the sealed sanitized container but if i keep leftover food for however many weeks like that in the fridge i'd bet my left nut that'd grow fur. why would it be any different with malt mate?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Friday Sep 02, 2005 5:07 pm

Guest , I have yeasts in the fridge in airtight sanitised containers that are still OK after 12 months and no they don't grow fur. You might have fur growing on your left nut but it ain't growing on my yeasts.
As for the out of date kit . Don't you get it. If its not pooched its not going to make any difference in flavour to your brews with the small amount you use for a starter . If when you open the tin its pooched don't risk it and throw the bugger out.

Shaun · Post by **Shaun** » Friday Sep 02, 2005 7:04 pm

Guest each to there own

. I would brew it, worst that can happen is it tastes like crap and I loose about $6.00 in malt, then it may be a fantastic brew, will never know unless it is brewed.

Dogger Dan · Post by **Dogger Dan** » Saturday Sep 03, 2005 2:25 am

The water activity in the malt extract is to low for anything to grow in it.

If the can is dented, the coating on the metal may have been broken causing the can to oxidize (rust). This will lead to a strange brew. If it is
all intact, the only thing will be a darker a colour reportedly. Brew it and enjoy, just replace the yeast.

Dogger

Post by **Oliver** » Sunday Sep 04, 2005 2:17 pm

I'm with most of you. Brew the bugger!

Oliver

Hully · Post by **Hully** » Sunday Sep 04, 2005 11:27 pm

DB

Thanks for the tip. Haven't used grain before so is a good excuse to learn.
Will do some research on the forum and give it a go.

As the general opinion on the freebie is brew it will give it a go. Have some yeast not used with kits, morgans ale or thomas coopers. Also willamette and cascade finishing hops, sound good

Post by **Oliver** » Tuesday Sep 06, 2005 8:13 pm

Hully. Any of the yeasts should be fine. The Thomas Cooper's is an ale/lager blend, so you could brew it cold (just means that the ale portion of the yeast won't have any effect).

I'd whack in 10g each of these hops.

See http://www.homebrewandbeer.com/forum/vi ... php?t=1272 for some thoughts on hops and how to add them to a kit.

Cheers,

Oliver

Malt Shovel Deep Roast Ale

Malt Shovel Deep Roast Ale

Re: Malt Shovel Deep Roast Ale