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Whats the max temp with saflager yeast?
Posted: Friday Jan 06, 2006 9:36 pm
by Lebowski
Like the topic says,
Whats the max temp you can make a 'decent/drinkable' beer with saflager yeast?
Posted: Friday Jan 06, 2006 9:46 pm
by yardglass
Lebowski,
done a couple in the low 20's/19*.Nice after 3 mth.
S-23 is good up to 24*, the same as an Ale Yeast, but you don't get the Lager characteristics.
on the side... i grabbed a new S-23 from HBS recently and the whole packaging/label info has changed to IMPLY it's an Ale Yeast.
anyone else noticed this.?
yard
Posted: Saturday Jan 07, 2006 12:22 am
by Lebowski
Do you know if the 34/70 saflager is good up to 24 also? I think they recommend 10-15 on the website?
Posted: Saturday Jan 07, 2006 12:52 am
by Dogger Dan
I brewed with a Saflager at 28 deg while reproducing an Anchor Steam.
Dogger
Posted: Saturday Jan 07, 2006 10:06 am
by mikey
Dogger Dan wrote:I brewed with a Saflager at 28 deg while reproducing an Anchor Steam.
Dogger
what's the effect on taste with brewing at such high temperatures?
I'm asking because I've put off brewing with the 32 - 35C we've had recently in Brisbane.
Posted: Saturday Jan 07, 2006 1:31 pm
by Matty
I've found that if you brew the saflager to high, I did one at about 24'C because the weather tricked me, it ends up tasting real fruity. I think this happens with all lagers not just saflager, not too unpleasant, but not real lagery either. Pretty sure they recomend 16'C as the max, 10' - 16'C is good I think. Need good source of temp control before doing lagers I reckon, unless you don't mind the fruity esters.
Cheers,
Matty
Posted: Saturday Jan 07, 2006 8:17 pm
by yardglass
Lebowski wrote:Do you know if the 34/70 saflager is good up to 24 also? I think they recommend 10-15 on the website?
big,
same as S-23, before i had temp control all my lagers were in the 20's, sometimes warmer.
imo, still better than using the 6gm supplied yeast.
yard
Posted: Sunday Jan 08, 2006 8:12 am
by Dogger Dan
32 is way high but if you have to you have to
with lager yeasts at high temps they just don't have the sharp crisp flavours.
I have no issues with that and one should try it, just to get an opinion. At 32 though you will be bringing in some esters which is OK, just remember that they are going to happen.
Dogger
Posted: Sunday Jan 08, 2006 9:09 am
by stevem
If you what to ferment a lager at higher temps maybe you should look at using the Whitelabs WLP810 yeast. It can ferment up to 18 C while retaining lager characteristics. I have not used it but found its details on the White Labs website.
Cheers
Steve
Posted: Sunday Jan 08, 2006 10:20 pm
by Hrundi V Bakshi
Dogger Dan wrote: At 32 though you will be bringing in some esters which is OK, just remember that they are going to happen.
Dogger
More than esters. 32C is going to make fusel alcohol. Do not be worrying about the nail polish remover aroma and flavour. Please to be thinking about the killed brain cells and hangovers. No beer making yeast should be pressed into service at such temperatures!