anyone heard of cobra beer?... recipe ideas

[derrin]

cobra is a british beer made with barley, maize and rice.
I think it's a lager. I seem to remember that written on the bottle.
Mostly available in australia at indian restaurants, or tesco in london.
Anyway I'm thinking of using
coopers lager tin plus saflager yeast
ultra brew 1 kg
ldm 500gm
flaked rice 500gm
maize 500gm
hops ? this is where I'm stuck. saaz? haulertau? both?

If any one has had this beer or has made anything with the combination of rice and corn, please, please give me some feedback.

thanks

[rodman]

Derrin,

Cobra looks interesting: an Indian beer with British heritage! Cobra Beer Corporate Background

The blurb says: 'Award-winning Cobra 5.0% Premium Beer is brewed to an authentic Indian recipe using only the finest natural ingredients. A unique blend of barley malt and yeast with maize, hops and rice gives Cobra its distinctive, clean and extra smooth taste. It’s great to drink on its own and is an excellent accompaniment to all cuisines.'

Sadly (IMO), the website tends to focus far more on the corporate/marketing side of things, rather than the product. How come most commercial brews end up being promoted this way? (Things that make you go Hmm...)

[wildschwein]

With the rice and corn you'll need to do mash of some sort; even if it's a mini mash. Those weights you suggest there for rice and corn will put a lot of unfermentable starch into your beer. Maybe some of the mash masters here can recommend a mash formulation (ie how much malt you will need to use) to help you do a mash and convert those corn and rice starches into fermentable sugars.

If you don't want to do a mash you can buy liquid rice malt in the health food section of Coles - it's had all the starches converted to fermentable sugars already - cheap and easy to use too; getting the corn character -hmh- maybe you could use some maltodextrine or glucose - dunno?

[derrin]

The liquid rice malt idea sounds good.
I think I'll have to ask the guys at the HBS about how to, or how long to mash rice if I go with the rice flakes.
I'm kind of punching above my weight with this one, but I've had some great results from doing the mini-mash with the usual grains.

And yeah they're not giving much away on the web site, mostly corporate bollocks.
thanks guys