flat beer and PET bottles

poppe · Post by **poppe** » Friday Aug 26, 2005 9:54 pm

I figure I would buy a case of spring water for brewing. That way I could also use the PET bottles. Bad mistake.

Both batches came out flat.

The bottles bulged and the level of beer in the bottles was lowered.

I suspect the beer carbonated properly but exerted sufficient pressure fot the co2 to leak through the cap or perhaps the walls .

So I'm not going to ty that again, unless someone persuades me that I'm full of it.

Regards

Guy L. Poppe

trueman · Post by **trueman** » Friday Aug 26, 2005 11:03 pm

I just bottled my beer into PET bottles yesterday and today they look like bottles of water. Is this how they should look or have they gone flat too?

vlade · Post by **vlade** » Friday Aug 26, 2005 11:58 pm

Whilst there is nothing like cracking the seal on a glass stubby, the first batch i brewed, about four months ago, was in PET bottles and these are still sufficiently fizzy.

Perhaps the bottles you used were not designed to hold the extra pressure produced when holding in a carbonated beverage. Do they contain the usual plastic seal under the lid? If this is not the case you may need to check yourpriming technique.

Andy · Post by **Andy** » Saturday Aug 27, 2005 3:09 am

Was it sparkling spring water or flat? The bottles for flat spring water are probably not the type to take the pressure of carbonation.

Andy

Post by **Oliver** » Saturday Aug 27, 2005 1:53 pm

poppe,

Judging by your comments about the bottles bulging, it certainly sounds like you have bottled in the type of bottle not meant to hold pressure.

Not sure what you could do about that now.

Someone might have a cunning plan.

trueman,

You won't see any bubbles at all until you take the cap off. Just think about commercial beer. Same thing happens there.

Cheers,

Oliver

trueman · Post by **trueman** » Saturday Aug 27, 2005 2:20 pm

Okay no worries.
I will stop worrying about it then.

trueman · Post by **trueman** » Saturday Aug 27, 2005 2:22 pm

BTW., just reading your profile Oliver. Who do you follow in AFL?

Post by **Oliver** » Saturday Aug 27, 2005 9:46 pm

The minor premiers, the mighty Adelaide Crows.

Great game today between the Crows and WCE to finish the minor round.

Are you a WCE man or Freo, or something else?

Hopefully by the time you read this Freo would have destroyed those f---ers from Port.

Oliver

trueman · Post by **trueman** » Sunday Aug 28, 2005 12:12 am

No despite the fact that I live in WA I was originally from Melbourne and I am a MIGHTY SAINTS FAN.

139 POINT WIN OVER THE LIONS TONIGHT. (With 7 key players out injured still) Not a bad effort.

What a game.

Im glad the crows beat WCE. My wife won a carton of Corona off the neighbour. She just didnt tell me she had bet until after the game in case she lost.

Well we shall see you in the finals then...

gregb · Post by **gregb** » Sunday Aug 28, 2005 6:09 am

The top three teams are not from Melbourne. This is good.

Greg.

grabman · Post by **grabman** » Sunday Aug 28, 2005 9:15 am

can we leave the football for now, I'm in mourning!!

Those f.....ers from port as Oliver called them beat Freo, well that's our season over, time to think bout next year!

Og how sad!!!!

Post by **Oliver** » Sunday Aug 28, 2005 10:40 am

gregb wrote:The top three teams are not from Melbourne. This is good.

Greg.

Good? It's bloody magnificent!

Oliver

r.magnay · Post by **r.magnay** » Sunday Aug 28, 2005 5:13 pm

here here, now just get rid of those bloody warfies and then I don't care who wins!!

grabman · Post by **grabman** » Sunday Aug 28, 2005 8:24 pm

r.magnay wrote:here here, now just get rid of those bloody warfies and then I don't care who wins!!

which bloody warfies!!! Freo have already gone! Only the fu.....rs at Port to go!

But any non vic team now has my support! Sorry to the Vic boys but it's time, as Gough said years ago, for a new guard to rule the game!

trueman · Post by **trueman** » Sunday Aug 28, 2005 8:53 pm

grabman wrote:
r.magnay wrote:here here, now just get rid of those bloody warfies and then I don't care who wins!!
But any non vic team now has my support! Sorry to the Vic boys but it's time, as Gough said years ago, for a new guard to rule the game!

What are you talking about? A Victorian team hasnt one the Grand Final for the last 5 years.

Hully · Post by **Hully** » Sunday Aug 28, 2005 10:45 pm

Back to the topic guys

Try 1.25L Coke bottles. I have a friend who uses them exclusively.
Quick rinse and dry, store upside down in plastic bags till needed, no sanitiser ( the coke does a good job ).
Great to take to parties as you just throw the empties.
I have been using a few in each batch I bottle, short term haven't noticed a taste difference.

And the SWANS are looking good this year, not that I know much about the game up here

trueman · Post by **trueman** » Sunday Aug 28, 2005 10:53 pm

Hully,

So can I also use 2 litre Coke bottles too then? I am about to brew a second batch which will be ready for bottling way before my first batch has even been consumed. I didnt want to have to go and buy more PET bottles if I can help it. But we drink lots of Diet coke so have 2 litre PET bottles. Assuming they are okay to use how many carbonation drops would I use? 5 of them perhaps???

BTW Yes Sydney is a real worry this year for the Sainters. The only team I am really worried about.

Hully · Post by **Hully** » Sunday Aug 28, 2005 11:17 pm

Trueman

Cant see why not. My mate has a family that drinks more coke than he can drink beer

So he has a constant supply of bottles. His wife just rinses them and drains them till completely dry then stores them. Does not sanitize before filling and does not have any problems.
5 or 6 carbonation drops sounds OK if you use 2 in a longneck. I was using 3 in the 1.25L bottles.
I have bulk primed my last 2 batches which makes using odd size bottles easier.

Lebowski · Post by **Lebowski** » Monday Aug 29, 2005 12:18 am

I use the PET bottles because I cant be bothered washing 60 bottles anymore.
I've used all different kind of soft drink bottles without any carbonation problems (apart from some ginger beer, but I had some in glass and that was flat too).

Dogger Dan · Post by **Dogger Dan** » Monday Aug 29, 2005 3:30 am

Coke bottles are Ok, its just a lot of beer in one go.

Dogger