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sometimes if you pick up the fermenter it can suck bake
idophor does not help the taste of beer
Huh?!
Sorry, but I disagree - if you use Iodophor, you will not ruin a beer if you get suck back. Consider about 30ml of diluted Iodophor will not be noticed and if you can pick it up in 23L of beer, then you should consider becoming a BJCP master judge!
Iodophor also comes out of solution over time and by the end of primary, the pale tan solution in the airlock should be clear and most importantly, safe, even if all of it went back into the finished beer...
I reckon it's a tricky thing to know when you can cut corners on stuff like sanitation. If your sanitation processes are really good, there's all sorts of stuff that you can do that people who are not as clean simply cannot get away with.
I chose to be a bit anal about cleanliness in all areas until I was more confident about what I was doing. I am yet to understand a thing about what I am doing, so I am still careful. There are probably people who, upon viewing my procedures, would think I am too anal (and not anal enough) about cleanliness.
Why am I waffling about this so much? Because I think the whole issue of an airlock is about cleanliness...
Well, it's the choice of sucking back something that might contain bacteria, or sucking back a little bit of sanitiser. On balance I think I'd rather risk the sanitiser.
Especially with something like iodophor. I read of an experiment where a LOT was added to a batch of beer, and no flavour problems. 2nd hand knowledge though.
SpillsMostOfIt wrote:If you're still unsure about this, I suggest you invoke the lethaldog rule:
If lethaldog does it, it can't be too wrong*.
You probably won't die if you just use tap water.
* Caveats apply.
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You are a stirrer Spills, can't wait for Lethals reply..
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i have only ever used tap water for the airlock and my sanatising routine is brew finished rinse, scrub with soft brush, rinse, put pinkstain in fill to 5L splash around fermenter for 30 secs pour some out tap. rinse , rinse again and brew. never pulled my taps apart in over 4 years (had dregs of a brew in 1 and bottles and crust water in the other for about a year) just hit it with bleach and kettle water.never had an infection or off brew, i would have called my sanitation poor/slack/quick nothing thourough about it.
Only ever used lots and lots boiling water after bottling then made up a new brew straight away. Haven't removed tap yet, though i should as it's probably only a matter of time.
Bottles rinsed well and kept in cupboard dry (no sanitiser) rinsed with water before re-bottling and not one problem.
Been told that bacteria can only form from the damp so keepin 'em dry is working for me.
Gone gladwrap on the latest brew, see how it goes.
By the sounds of it i might stay that way.
I've been using the other type of air lock, the S bend type that comes with the kits. I was curious to see how they compare as I moved one of my fermenter's the other night to a warmer position and with the weight of the liquid inside the bottom tends to sag a bit when lifted causing air to be sucked back (sometimes with water).
Does this type of air lock tend to prevent that at all?
Another quick one, when taking samples for SG liquid being removed also causes air to be sucked back. What do you guys do? Remove the air lock or block it (I found that worked last night) or what?
Just simple questions but I'm curious.
"Beer makes you feel the way you ought to feel without beer"
That's why i bought this one (before i went to gladwrap) cause there is no way the water can get back into the brew.
With the s bend one i used to remove it to take a sample.
gregb wrote:I prefer this type because:
- Highly unlikely to 'suck back' the liquid in the lock.
- Quieter.
- Converts readily to a blow off tube when doing brews that may super krausen out the top.
- easier to clean as mentioned before.
Adzmax wrote:I've been using the other type of air lock, the S bend type that comes with the kits. I was curious to see how they compare as I moved one of my fermenter's the other night to a warmer position and with the weight of the liquid inside the bottom tends to sag a bit when lifted causing air to be sucked back (sometimes with water).
Does this type of air lock tend to prevent that at all?
Another quick one, when taking samples for SG liquid being removed also causes air to be sucked back. What do you guys do? Remove the air lock or block it (I found that worked last night) or what?
Just simple questions but I'm curious.
Unless you intend to toss the fermenter around or root it , I typically take out the S bend airlock, move the fermenter and refit. If you've only got it off for a short while, you'd have to be extremely unlucky to catch an infection - ask the gladwrap users - they don't get infections....er.....I mean....ahhh feck!
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