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I chill my 12l boil in a tub with frozen ice cream containers - takes about 20 mins.

Yes, maybe the EKG is overpowering the Challenger but the Challenger taste was there after 1 week in the bottle? And I don't seem to be left with ANY hop aroma, not even EKG.

I'm thinking that it's more ...

No, not filtering at all. Not so concerned about clarity, even though my steeping technique seems to generate a bit of haze.

Folks,

I have been brewing for about 15 years now but am having dire problems of late making beers that have decent hop aroma and flavour. I put bulk amounts of hops in and it smells overpowering when in the fermenter. When I taste it after a week, it is bursting with hop flavour but by week 4 it ...

Has anyone tried this? Apparently a Barley Wine of sorts ...

I was in a 'boutique beer' shop recently (I was dubious until I discovered they also have TTL, which I have been looking for for ages!) and the guy behind the counter was jealously gaurding one bottle of this Golden Pride. My interest was ...

Good to see I've sparked some conversation here!

To catch up:

Anna, it's a good point you make about when this started happening. I did make the switch from using Morgans kits as a base to Coopers about the same time. Morgans publish the bitterness (and colour) as how it will be in a 23l batch, so ...

Doc - I was sceptical about Amarillo/Cascade as a JS Amber Ale recipe until I tried it. It seems the darker malts take some of the citrus tang out. I first tried one that a friend made at a 'Brew By You' place, made me change my recipe!

In some ways it's easier to do all extract (or grain) brews - at least you know what you're dealing with!

OK. I have reverse engineered Beersmith so that when I add 1.7kg of Coopers Lager to water to get a 23l batch, I get 28.8 IBUs. And Dark Ale to get 43.6, both as per the sticky. Makes for a serious 'hopped extract' in Beersmith but hey!

Even with these revised settings it has still only come up as ...

Hmm, very different to what I get from Beersmith?

In Beersmith you have to model up the amount of hops in the 'extract' to give the same IBU as the kit. Coopers publish their IBU's by what is in the can, not how it will turn out once you've mixed up a whole batch.

I enter Coopers lager as a ...

Beersmith suggests my IBU will be 32.3, as shown in the original post. I have entered the Coopers cans in as BS ingredients based on info from the coopers website and tinkered to get the resultant IBU to match.

I did a 12litre boil, with all fermentables in, other than Coopers Lager at flameout ...

I seem to have a recurring problem with my brews coming out with an overpowering astringent bitterness. This has happened recently with a number of different styles and yeasts.

I thought it was a problem with my steeping technique for specialty grains, so I've made a couple of batches without them ...

Check this thread - I have made the recipe on there and damn good!

http://www.homebrewandbeer.com/forum/vi ... =11&t=9673

Cheers,

Mike

I have done this recipe and it turned out really well. It is orginally off the Morgans site. I did it pretty much as you said, with Saaz hops and all, but used S04 yeast instead.

The Morgans Master Blend cans were pretty good althogh they have changed recently. The only catch with them is that they ...

I've now tasted this brew and I think the bittering addition has worked out OK. Unfortunately I'm missing a fair chunk of flavour and aroma from this beer.

I think the problem is that while you can use Beersmith to calculate IBU fairly well for partial boils, the flavour and aroma aspects are also ...

Right. I did up a mini batch last night as described. 250g LDME, 21g NB, 2 litre boil for 60 mins.

Strangely, when I tried to use Beersmith to incorporate the new batch with the old, the IBU's didn't addup. The original recipes (sans NB) came up as 17.4 IBU, the new batch as 18 so that should equal ...

Have just been playing in Beersmith - If I put 250g LDME in 2 litres of water with 20g of Northern Brewer for 60 mins and have a 'Batch Size' of 25 litres (my original 23l + new 2l), this gives me IBU of 18 or so.

I might try and pitch this tomorrow night, so that the yeast can have a go at mixing ...

I am remaking my "Dismal TTL Clone" http://www.homebrewandbeer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9227 and have pretty much made the same mistake again: I have forgotten to add enough hops at bittering stage! :oops: I was short of Fuggles, so subbed in some Northern Brewer that I had. Or at least I was ...

I normally do a 12 litre boil but not all fermentables are in. The schedule from beersmith (revised after LLME issue sorted) gave me 21 IBU, way below where it should be.

I had an idea TTL was a bit drier, hence the Lyles and Nottingham. Plus Nottingham is on the same side of the country as wehre ...

No, for a 23l batch I was about 1044, so pretty close.

I normally do a 12 litre boil but not all fermentables are in. The schedule from beersmith (revised after LLME issue sorted) gave me 21 IBU, way below where it should be.

I had an idea TTL was a bit drier, hence the Lyles and Nottingham. Plus Nottingham is on the same side of the country as wehre ...